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konohasfox:

Julian’s true abilities

I’ve always wondered just how far Julian’s augmentations extend, because the two times he’s asked the question directly, he gives what sounds like an open, honest answer. And while both answers are similar, they’re not the same:

To Miles in “Doctor Bashir, I Presume?”

Well, my mental abilities were the top priority, of course. My IQ jumped five points a day for over two weeks. Followed by improvements in my hand-eye coordination, stamina, vision, reflexes, weight, height. In the end, everything but my name was altered in some way.

To Lauren in “Statistical Probabilities”

Mental abilities, mostly. But they had my hand eye coordination, reflexes and vision improved as well.

On one occasion he voluntarily offers some further information about his abilities to Miles in “Extreme Measures”:

One of the advantages to being genetically enhanced is the ability to control my own vital signs. When I find a cure and I want to get out, I’ll send my hypothalamus a signal to raise my blood pressure forty percent, and the equipment will automatically break the link.

Then there’s Sisko’s statement in “Take me out to the Holosuite”, which Julian doesn’t challege in the slightest:

How can we beat the Logicians? They’re all Vulcans. They’re stronger and faster than any one of us, except for Worf and our genetically enhanced doctor.

So for a base understanding of Julian’s abilities I would combine all of these statements, putting the most weight behind what he’s told Miles. Why? Well it wasn’t that Miles intended to, but he kind of had to ambush Julian here to give him the heads up his secret was out. So since he was already upset from arguing with his parents, and strssed about what damage Richard and Amsha might do, he was already emotionally vulnerable. Then his best friend walks in to tell him his life is potentially in ruins and his career probably over. Julian is distraught, resigned to his fate, and probably relieved to finally be able to tell someone, having never told a single soul his big secret. When he later tells Miles about his ability to control his vital signs it’s necessary information for their mission, and by this point he’s become comfortable with Miles (and probably only Miles) knowing more about his enhancements.

But Julian’s been an augment since early childhood, he probably doesn’t even know the full scope of his abilities. What he takes as normal for himself in one area may not be close to normal in others. There’s things that medical science can’t measure, especially when it comes to the lived experience of an individual. And that’s where Sisko’s statement about him being stronger and faster than a Vulcan comes in.

By this point the truth about Julian has been out for well over a year. Julian’s no longer hiding, but still not actively flaunting his enhancements. But by this point his colleagues have had a chance to absorb the news and observe Julian a little more closely. We can see from this that Benjamin Sisko (who’s exceptionally strong by any standards!) has observed Julian enough to believe that he’s at the very least as strong and fast as a Vulcan.

We can’t say for definite that this is the case, and Julian’s probably not going to be the best judge, so he agrees and give it little thought (and canonic evidence for his strength is all over the place - sometimes he’s weak as a kitten and other times he isn’t).

Another clue for how bad Julian is at judging his abilities compared to others is in “Extreme Measures” when Julian basically finds a technological way to conduct a mind meld with Sloan. This is a solution concocted on the spot that essentially allows humans to use technology to gain Vulcan-esque mental abilities. We’ve never really seen something like this in Star Trek (at least not anthing created by humans). He explains his idea and invention to Miles thinking that Miles - an engineering genius - will understand. But Miles is thoroughly confused:

Miles: You have me re-routing so many power relays and transfer coils I can’t guarantee any of this will work without running a series of diagnostics.
Julian: I’ve already done the diagnostics, Miles, in my head. The neural interface will then provide a basic pattern to my hippocampal nuclei.
Miles: I give up. You’ve explained it to me three times and I still don’t get it.

On top of Julian being a poor judge of comparing the average person to his own lived experience (he might be a doctor with all that technical knowledge of physiology but he’s not far enough removed from his own situation to be accurate here), there’s also this statement to Lauren in “Statistical Probabilities”:

I did my best not to exploit my abilities.

From the ages of 15 to 32, Julian Bashir never once spoke about his augmentation. He never once aroused suspicion, not among his friends, his peers, his instructors, his colleagues, his senior officers or the multitude of suspicious - and occasionally telepathic - aliens he encountered. To say his skills of deception put Garak’s to shame is an understatement. There’s very few moments prior to the reveal that could even point to him being anything other than a typical human Starfleet doctor.

(I’m ignoring the real world knowledge we have that the augment reveal was a last minute addition to his character cos I’m only focusing on in-universe info).

I don’t think his behaviour in covering up his augmentations would change post-reveal, at least not quickly. This is behaviour that has been ingrained in him since he was still a kid. And goodness knows what manipulation and gaslighting his parents employed to make him conceal the truth even before they told him the truth. People don’t just break habits of a lifetime.

Even post-reveal he still underplays things. We see this in “Extreme Measures”. After previously confessing to Miles that he can always hit the bullseye in darts from the oche, Miles doubles it and they go back to playing with roughly the same win/lose ratio as before. But at the end of “Extreme Measures” Julian is able to - having just downed a fair amount of whisky very quickly - lob an arrow at the bullseye from all the way across the bar without even taking time to calculate his shot.

It’s proof he’s still holding back.

There was a big change in Julian’s temperament after the reveal. There’s more genuine confidence, less bravado. He’s no longer actively concealing his secret so there’s less clowning around to deflect attention away from what he’s hiding. But he’s also more withdrawn, less talkative… less happy.

You’d think he would be happy and relieved to be living his authentic life, but he’s not, because he isn’t.

Julian is still hiding. Sure everyone on the station “accepted” that the was an augment. No-one that we know of on the station complained to Starfleet about the retention of his commission and medical licence… But Julian is very aware that his colleagues are accepting him exactly as they believe they know him. They’ll accept the regular Julian Bashir with the abstract knowledge that he’s an augment. They might not accept Julian Bashir as a demonstrable augment. They can live with knowing he’s an augment. They probably don’t want to see the proof.

So Julian’s big secret is out in the open, but he still has to keep his truth to himself. Some quotes from “Statistical Probabilities” show why that’s the case:

Worf: It is not a laughing matter. If people like them are allowed to compete freely, then parents would feel pressured to have their children enhanced so that they could keep up

Sisko, re. limiting the rights of Augments: But even so, it seemed like a good way to discourage genetic tampering.

Miles, who should know better: Besides, it’s not as if we’re trying to exclude them from anything. We’re just talking about limiting what they’re allowed to do.
Julian: Like joining Starfleet.
Worf: Exactly.
Julian: Are you saying that I shouldn’t be allowed to wear this uniform?
Worf: Well, you are an exception.

From his reaction, it’s clear Julian detests being an exception. He hates it. He hates that he’s only permitted in non-augmented society because he will submit to the norms of non-augmented society.

So Julian is no longer hiding in secret, he’s hiding in plain sight.

At the end of the day it means we’ll probably never know his full capabilities, though given what we saw him do in “Extreme Measures” and his raw honestly to Miles when the truth comes out, I’d reckon he has abilities far more advanced than anything we saw during DS9’s run.

But more than that I’m sad that Julian now has to live with people knowing him and judging him for something that isn’t his fault or responsibility… and yet he still can’t fully be himself.

I hope if we do see him again we see him happy and no longer having to hide in any way shape or form. I’m going to close with a quote from “A Time to Stand” that’s qute telling (this whole conversation is to be honest), because the following is all lies, and Garak and Julian both know it:

Garak: I’m really not interested, Doctor. Ever since it’s become public knowledge that you’re genetically engineered, you’ve used every opportunity to show off.

Julian: I have nothing to hide anymore. I might as well use what I have.

xenobotanist:

As someone who grew up with a combination of neglect and emotional abuse/manipulation, Julian Bashir is not required to forgive his parents. Especially since they justified what they did but never actually apologized for it.

Also, did you know that you can disown someone at any age? Including (especially) as an adult? Maybe that’s why he didn’t want his parents there, maybe that’s why he hasn’t seen them in 3 years.

Sure, some people want to believe in happily ever afters, but the truth is that sometimes there isn’t one.

And screw that shit about owing and loving your family just because you share blood. If they make you miserable, cut the ties (if you’re able, of course).

So if you want to headcanon that Julian and his parents mended their relationship, you do you. And if you want to believe that his father was a narcissist and Julian was brave enough to actually stand up to him and say that’s enough, that’s fine too.

We cling to characters because we relate to them.

I guess what I’m trying to say is, you can view Julian Bashir however feels right to you, but don’t tell anyone else how they should perceive him.

philosopherking1887:

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rocksoff:

rocksoff:

this all tracks but like. soooo interesting to me

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pt. 2

This right here. This is the conversation that unlocks Julian as a character in my opinion. This moment right here is the exact moment he starts to make sense, at least the way he handles “doctoring”. It’s not just the doctor story, but the context in which it’s told, the fact that he unpacks this specifically in the direction of someone who’s frightened and has, somewhat against their own nature, come to him for comfort. It’s sort of an odd little conversation, given the relationship these two generally have. And she STAYS! She stays with him after this, she gets in the other bunk!

It’s a kind of meta, almost. This story explains the reason he is the way he is so succinctly that it even manages to explain why he’s telling it. Here, viewer, is a story about how this man became the kind of person who’d tell this story at all, to a friend he normally looks up to who’s all of the sudden looking up to him. It’s a simple little thing, a very gentle, very sweet character moment, but it’s so, so much more than that. It is a lens through which so much else becomes immediately clear. And I love it.

wait I’m not 100% done with this scene actually. Because he’s kind of also telling himself this I think. Because like. He’s saying this, telling his own story, and being comforting because that’s just how he is and how he has an impulse to be, but the impeccable altruism and goodness of doctors is something that’s actually been probably FALSE in Julian’s life. I don’t think what he’s saying here is a lie in the least - he’s completely sincere. but I also wonder if his choices were influenced by…a desire to prove his own understanding wrong, to try and fix something from the inside? Like - he knows what doctors and medicine did to him. It makes me wonder if part of his drive to get into medicine would have been to tell himself - see, doctors aren’t all bad, because you are one now. To prove to himself that there can be good here by being that good himself. And now he can sit here and look his friend in the eye and give her this reassurance and feel at least apparently comfortable saying it and I wonder how much of that is about himself. How much is he talking about himself here? I don’t know the answer. But I do know that he at least seems to be sincere here - heartfelt and earnest. This doesn’t feel like a man trying to toe a line he doesn’t believe in just because he feels that he should. And yet, what he’s saying isn’t necessarily true of his own experience. The whole idea of “if I didn’t behave, they’d make sure I got sick” line is incredibly easy to read as a child’s interpretation of what actually happened to him. He didn’t perform the way his parents wanted, and thus was put through what he was put through. How easy would it be for a child to make that connection and interpret the outcome as “I’ve done something bad and not behaved, so this is my punishment”? Is this couple of lines - as he confirms and assures someone else that this of course wasn’t true - a reflection of an understanding that he came to, at some point in his life, that his augmentations weren’t a “punishment” or an inevitable consequence of his own “misbehavior,” and not his fault in any way? Can an almost-30-years-old Julian’s heartfelt assurance that illness and medical treatment are not punishments inflicted on the naughty be an absolution of his 6 year old self?

I’m not actually 100% sure where I’m going with all of this. Just turning it over and interrogating it more and more. The ground here is so so soft and I am READY to dig. The depth and potential analysis here feels neverending.

#love that julian also has multiple versions of his becoming a doctor backstory. it’s all true especially the lies (via @ectogeo-rebubbles)

And the different stories might all be part of the truth, but not the whole of it. Even before his augmentations, he had the impulse to heal, so he tried to repair Kukalaka. But his own encounters with doctors were somewhat less wholesome, so he started to be afraid of them. But he also wanted to have the knowledge they had to help people, like the girl on Invernia II who died because he didn’t have the knowledge he needed. (And maybe he also wanted to learn how Jules might have been helped without completely remaking him.)

thebluemeany:

Aged up Garak and Bashir because I was playing around with how to do a cheap, cheerful & quick way to do Deep Fake videos but with gifs. Really simple to do, you just have to find an image that it’ll work for.

1.) Put through still image from DS9 or another show actors are in through FaceApp and either age them up and/or use beard filters.

2.) Put aged-up still image through My Heritage Deep Nostalgia app, which animates it to make it move.

3.) Convert that video into gif and cut out the bits that work.

Whole thing takes about 10 minutes per gif.

shranstan:

the reason garak/parmak/bashir works is that it has the potential for 3-way mutual pining

garak: julian and kelas are able to get married.. they belong in the same profession/social class.. 

bashir: elim and kelas are probably going to marry each other.. after all, they are both cardassians, unlike me, and they have a prior relationship from all those ages ago..

parmak: elim and julian are probably already secretly married.. they’ve connected so much when living on ds9.. they shared so many intense events together, won a war together..

astrangergivingthestrangewelcome:

I dislike it when fics make the Bashirs too healthy or too abusive like… it’s an in between. Julian didn’t get hit, he got cake on his birthday, his parents love him and wanted to give him the support he needed to flourish anyway. That being said there is a constant level of disrespect in their relationship with their son that is not all in Julian’s head. Besides the GE which was just the base level of disrespect, I don’t think they ever truly listened to their son in the episode they appeared in. Richard Bashir acted like he knew what was best for Julian’s career having never practiced medicine, and going to Sisko and the admiral was also an act of disrespect honestly. Bashir didn’t just give up bc he didn’t want to fight, fighting for his job meant outting himself and he didn’t want to be outted. That’s an intensely personal decision and they made it for him. They micromanage. Any writing of their relationship has to capture the fact that they love him and care how he’s doing while having no qualms about disrespecting his autonomy. It’s complicated.

If you don’t mind me asking, why do you hate it when people call Bashir British?

Asked by Anonymous

I don’t have any like, moral objections to it (Alexander Siddig is after all half-British, and Bashir does have a British accent, there’s no denying that). And like, everyone has a right to their own headcanon, I’m not here to police anyone’s experience, that would be stupid and rude.

But… *insert meme: Julian Bashir is something that can actually be so personal*

Here’s the thing. I’m an African Arab. So is Alexander Siddig. We don’t get much good representation. Honestly we almost don’t get any representation at all. To be dramatic, Bashir is the only thing we’ve got. Literally the only African-Arab character I’ve ever seen that isn’t some sort of terrorist, and definitely the only African-Arab character in sci-fi/fantasy. Not only that, but on an (even more) personal note, I have never in my life identified with a character as much as I identify with Bashir. He’s basically me.

Which is why I’m very protective of Julian Bashir’s African-Arab identity. My headcanon is that he’s Tunisian, like me. I know a lot of people will be like, “well yeah, he can be African-Arab and British”, but no. It’s really not the same thing. At all. I want a character who grew up in my country, who knows my culture the way I do. Most people who live in first world countries don’t understand this. 

(also it’s kinda beside the point but I feel like I need to say this: one time Alexander Siddig played a Tunisian historical figure in a docu-drama and I never recovered)

It’s also my headcanon that the language Star Trek characters speak on screen isn’t English but Earth Standard, which is an entirely new language made up of as many Earth languages as possible (because there is no way English ends up becoming Earth’s official language, nope) It’s kinda like how in Lord of the Rings they’re not actually speaking English but for the reader/viewer’s benefit that’s what we hear. Poetic license or whatever.

I guess what I meant by “I hate it when people call Bashir british” is that I wish the fandom would acknowledge the fact that he’s Arab. Like “that arab twink” instead of “that british twink.” But that doesn’t mean people have to do as I say. 

tl;dr because of the lack of African-Arab representation in media (and especially sci-fi/fantasy) I’m protective of my headcanon that Bashir is Tunisian. But it’s a very personal thing and I don’t expect anyone to change their own headcanons to fit mine 💕

vulgarvulcan:

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one of my favorite small details about the little achievements video is this moment right here. in actuality a jokey way to explain the lack of prosthetics, yes, but the fact that they made julian’s reaction to garak asking if he likes the human look be such a firm “no, not a little bit. turn it off.” is so wholesome. no garak, wtf, where is my forehead spoon to kiss :(

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