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327 posts tagged Julian bashir

captaincrusher:

This idea though: Julian and Garak adopting a Cardassian war orphan from Bajor.

  • Little Gelmara learning to fix Miles dislocated shoulder before she’s 5.
  • Garak hacking into the database of the Central Command with Gelmara on his lap.
  • Aunt Nerys teaching Gelmara how to handle a weapon. Garak teaching her how to conceal it. Julian taking it away.
  • Gelmara for some reason loving Odo. She is constantly following him around. But he can never really catch her do it because Garak has taught her to be sneaky.
thesylverlining: “ theagenderprince: “ death-star510: “ Look at this hair, regular Julian would DIE if his hair every looked like this. ” ok but like garak meeting mirror verse julian….discuss…. ” OMG so like, last night I was having a p terrifying...

thesylverlining:

theagenderprince:

death-star510:

Look at this hair, regular Julian would DIE if his hair every looked like this.

ok but like garak meeting mirror verse julian….discuss….

OMG so like, last night I was having a p terrifying tachycardia episode (instead of a Star Trek episode like I wanted) so, I couldn’t tell you, that we had several Thoughts about mJulian and I am basically a mess about this man and his ridiculous wonderful hair, because, including but not limited to:

* he is Not a doctor, and DEFINITELY not genetically enhanced because does that shit exist in the alternate universe, at least for Terrans? uM NO

* HIS NAME IS JULES, THEREFORE, he would have no reason to rename himself. HOLY SHIT. HOLY SHIT QUITE FRANKLY

* This kind of confirms what I always suspected - there wasn’t actually anything seriously “”“wrong”“” with Julian as a child. He just wasn’t developing *fast enough* for his parents. Holy freaking - just step on my heart and grind it into the dirt, why not.

* If he ever *met* Julian - oh my gosh. THIS HURTS THE SYLVER - because. He would kind of, hate ‘himself?’ This shiny, sanitized, ‘enhanced’ (he says like a dirty word) version of himself, that everybody loves - that his parents made, because they thought he wasn’t good enough, at seven years old? WHAT, LIKE THE REST OF HIS UNIVERSE SHITTING ON HIM BECAUSE HE’S TERRAN REBEL TRASH WASN’T GOOD ENOUGH, HE GETS TO AN ENTIRELY *NEW* UNIVERSE, WHERE EVERYTHING’S SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER AND EQUAL AND HE’S *STILL* NOT GOOD ENOUGH, THEY HAVE A NEW, IMPROVED *BETTER* VERSION OF HIM? JULES CAN’T WIN. HE CAN’T EVER, *EVER* WIN.

* He would have such. An overcompensating “fuck you, I’m Dangerous, stay away” (that we see) attitude in his original universe, and it is absolutely out of survival. Because yeah, he did have challenges as a kid, physical illnesses, neurodivergent stuff, maybe undiagnosed ADHD (he can’t sit still, focus, he has to be moving and accomplishing stuff - which is great if you’re fighting a rebellion, ok, good outlet - always DOING THINGS and moving FORWARD, let’s go let’s do this, the Alliance isn’t going to destroy itself) - and people still do look down on him not just because he’s a Terran but because of these issues, that weren’t “fixed” with the enhancements. So he works and fights so freaking hard, ALWAYS, for everything he gets and keeps the walls up and guns out. And this INCREASES BY LIKE x10 when he sees his “Enhanced” self - holy crap this is such a slap in the face? Because he’s been trying to prove himself his whole life - NOW HE NEEDS TO PROVE THAT HE’S EVERY BIT AS GOOD AND VALID ON HIS OWN, he’s his own person, he’s just a different person not a worse one. And Julian always wanted to know who he’d have been, he never had the chance to find out, he was 7 years old - Just. Shit. He is not the “substandard, fail Bashir,” and Julian is not the ideal one. (Julian doesn’t think this and never would, bc look at his own issues up the wazoo with all this - but Jules would pick this up from other people REAL QUICK, and set them STRAIGHT.)

* I do think (and need to think tbh) that he and Julian would be okay but it would take a *while.* Because there is so much baggage, and they are so freakin different - but they are also the same, both overcompensating constantly, just about different things/for opposite reasons, and once they figure this out they *would* get each other really hard.

* All of these issues - and living in an actual freakin dystopia - mean Jules is just. So. Freaking. Driven and intense and passionate and determined as hell to SURVIVE and fight back against this terrible looming institution against impossible odds, he holds *NOTHING* back (where Julian is holding EVERYTHING back in an attempt to hide who he is, hide his enhancements and a LOT of his fears and anxieties and vulnerabilities), he lets his emotions go, he picks fights he shouldn’t, he is expressive and impulsive and he is made of fire and rebellion and LIFE -

* Jules Bashir is punk rock incarnate. (or at least my headcanon interpretation from the 4 minutes of screentime we see.) And I am a little in love.

* … Shit u asked about Garak LMAO. now I’m exhausted bc of that explosion of feels - HONESTLY, I THINK HE MIGHT TRY TO FIGHT GARAK ON SIGHT. Because of what a monster mirror Garak is, and like, he just sees Garak here, does not think this through (how did his Garak get here? Doesn’t matter, this man is responsible for so many horrors, he is not waiting to find out, he’s going down NOW) and like launches himself at him, because this always goes well. Garak is so fuckin surprised, and then ???!??!, and this is why Jules isn’t immediately dead. (“Two Doctors. I believe I’ve had this fantasy before. Except there, everything was a bit less… homicidal.” “I’M A REBEL, NOT A DOCTOR.” “And I’m… confused, but very intrigued.”)

lesbianaaronburr:

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lesbianaaronburr:

okay my gf’s running errands so i’m gonna go ahead w our man bashir after all, aka the “james bond” episode. to begin, we once again turn to special correspondent miike snow on reinterpretations of james bond archetypes in lgbtq pop culture. miike?  

I know i’ve said it before but IMAGINE being so embarrassed of your terrible taste in video games you threatened to have your bf arrested for logging onto your warcraft account

“you’re such a…” [touches bashir’s arm w infinite tenderness] “forgive me, a talkative man, and it’s so unusual for you to have secrets”

and then bashir is so gentle in return w his delivery of “this is a fantasy, i’m not hiding anything”

AND THEN 

“well if you’ve nothing to hide, why not let me stay?”

Kids i’m here today to tell you there’s a Subtext to these words exchanged. and that Subtext is “garak is deeply self-loathing and insecure and it bothers him that bashir is spending 90 hours a day kissing pretty holographic girls so bashir offers to walk him through the entire program to reassure him that there’s nothing to be afraid of even though it’s deeply irritating because dammit he loves that neurotic little komodo dragon.” im fcking emotional. 

“i’m only trying to point out that ur Lovely young Companion is leaving….. and Yet she seems so interested in ur advances only a Moment ago….. wonder what scared her away……” (it was me) (the Mrs)

ill tell u folks: these dudes do The Genders. they do them real good. it’s another old Trope, if you can’t show two men sucking face or indeed any physical affection between whatsoever you CAN at least show them bickering miserably within incredibly Heteronormative gender roles. the audience will understand: one is the man, and one is the nagging hellharpy, just like in any Regular relationship.

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shevathegun:

howtofightloneliness:

I see so many fics about Garak and Bashir that are sweet or sexy, and they’re tons of fun, but what I don’t see enough of is the most compelling aspect of their relationship: the fact that Garak is a deeply damaged individual. He is much older than Julian, a different species, and from a totally different background. Where Bashir’s parents risked everything to enhance him and give him a fighting chance in the world, Garak’s father denied their relationship and turned Garak into an efficient wreck. He’s a liar, a murderer, a spy and a torturer, and even his good guy progression can’t change some of that. His charm and good-naturedness is a mask, and if he ever only showed Julian his beaming sarcasm and witty banter in the bedroom (as most fanfics would have us believe), then their relationship was never real. Even the TV episodes show more than that! In The Wire alone, we see Garak scream at and attack Bashir, lie to him repeatedly, and communicate his need for help through strategically placed clues. It’s the closest he can come to revealing himself, because that IS him. It’s all true, “especially the lies,” because that is what Garak consists of. His groanings about sartorial choices and human rituals are characteristic, but they don’t compose his character. I want to see more of the REAL Garak; and, if he can’t give that, more of Bashir’s real frustration at not receiving it.

Oh man, while we’re at it are we really going to keep pretending that Julian is not ALSO damaged as fuck? I’m sorry, but “[his] parents risked everything to enhance him and give him a fighting chance in the world”? No. No. Julian’s parents committed acts of heinous and horrific abuse against him, to the point where they were willing to completely unmake him in hopes of making him a child that deserved their love and affection. Julian’s parents didn’t give him genetic enhancements because he wanted them, because he needed them; he wasn’t born with a heart defect, he wasn’t in pain, he wasn’t suffering. Julian did not need genetic enhancements. Not to survive. Not even to be happy. He just needed them to be the child that his parents wanted. 

Julian is a product of abuse in exactly the way Garak is. It manifests in his social awkwardness and his unrelenting desire for approval and his need – not his desire, his need – to always be the very best at everything he does, because if he isn’t, then by his parent’s standards he doesn’t even deserve to exist. Like Garak, Julian lives a life of personas: he is so terrified to live as his authentic self that he almost doesn’t have one. He is whoever you want him to be; a parody of social and intellectual success.  

Julian and Garak are not opposites. They are identical. Julian is not some precious, innocent child who’s never suffered, who wouldn’t understand the damage abuse does, who wouldn’t understand Garak’s transient sense of self, who wouldn’t understand Garak’s duplicity and his fear. That’s the face Julian puts on. It’s as real as his super spy identity in “Our Man Bashir”. Julian’s authentic self shows itself when there is no one left to impress, when death is nigh, when only Garak is there to witness it, and it is bitter, and damaged, and deadly. Just like Garak’s is.

Julian’s real self is as damaged and unsure as Garak’s is, and I need a recognition of his complexity as much as I need recognition of Garak’s. 

airyairyquitecontrary:

geekygothgirl:

airyairyquitecontrary:

startrekds9:

Fadwa El Guindi as Amsha Bashir
in 5.14 - Doctor Bashir, I Presume? [Feb 1997]

It was when the producers began looking for soemone to play Bashir’s mother that they ran into real problems. “We wanted Arab-Americans to play both parents,” says director David Livingston. But it proved impossible to find a female Arab-American actor. “That’s because there are none,” points out Alexander Siddig. “Arab actresses are an oxymoron. Most Arabs are Muslim, and Islam frowns upon acting. No one outside of the family may see a woman without a headdress on, or see her cry or laugh. In the Islam world, you won’t see a woman acting, except in a place like Egypt, where the rules are more liberal, and even then there are very strict definitions of what a woman may or may not do. But the woman they found did an amazing job.”
  Credit Casting Director Ron Surma for finding Fadwa El Guindi, a social anthropology professor at the University of Southern California. “Ron had heard something about a woman who’d done some community theater in town.” says Livingston. “She had a real genuine empathetic quality about her when we brought her in to read, and we decided to go for it.”
  “It was such a marvelous moment,” smiles Ira Behr. “She was nervous as can be, but she had tremendous class. We told her to just be herself, and she was great.”

- Deep Space Nine Companion

On the other hand, they didn’t cast an Arab-American as Richard Bashir either. Brian George is British-Israeli, and has a gloriously complicated family background - his parents were Jews of Iraqi descent who were born in Lebanon and India. And he grew up in both England and Canada, and went to university in Toronto.
And I like to imagine that the Bashir family tree is exactly that confusing, too.
And that SOMEWHERE in there was a Wooster, because I DON’T KNOW HOW ELSE TO EXPLAIN JULIAN.

I’d also like to point out that this was the mid-nineties and because they were determined to have an actor of the right ethnic group play Bashir’s mom they still managed to find one. Contrast that to all the “we put out a casting call for only white actors and then no Asian/black/Latin@ actors came so that’s why we couldn’t cast anyone who wasn’t white! Besides there aren’t any actors of the right ethnicity!” bullshit that we hear so often from whitewashing film and TV executives nowadays. 

True that.

Also, Doctor Bashir didn’t have a specified ethnicity until they cast Siddig El Fadil. He was very much a blank-slate character at first, put in almost as an afterthought because there had to be a Chief Medical Officer, and they decided it would be fun to make him young, naïve, overly confident and keen. The character’s name was originally Julian Amoros (that surname is a bit on-the-nose) but it was altered to fit the casting. They were also deliberately looking for non-white actors to make the Starfleet cast diverse. 

And neither Julian nor his parents were ever given a specified nationality, or city or even region of origin on Earth. England is implied by Julian and Richard’s accents, but all we have to go on are English accents (Julian’s is evidently adopted rather than learned from his father, as it reflects a different social class) and an Arabic surname (which is also found among people who aren’t of directly Arabic extraction; there are Bashirs from Pakistan and India). Their family backstory must necessarily be one with elements of empire, colonialism and migration, but this isn’t made explicit.

Another thing that isn’t remarked upon explicitly but that I always find interesting is, two of the most lovable characters, Chief O'Brien and Doctor Bashir, come from cultures that were colonised by England (well, large parts of South Asia and the Middle East were colonised by England, though not all) and had to free themselves from that oppression, and terrorism was involved in the process. The parallel with Bajor and Cardassia is never remarked upon, but it hangs there in the subtext, for me. 

And one of the ways Bashir and O'Brien find common ground on which to base their friendship is their shared elements of English culture - represented by the scene in which they drunkenly sing “Jerusalem” - which were imposed on their ancestors by colonialism.

IT’S VERY COMPLEX AND INTERESTING.

  • Julian: Garak, will you hold this infant for a second while I check the pediatric database
  • Garak: Julian, I don't think that's a good-
  • Julian: What, you don't like children?
  • Garak: That's not-
  • Julian: [dumps baby in arms] It'll only be a moment
  • Garak: ... We are adopting this child.
  • Julian: Garak, that baby has parents
  • Garak: This is our son now, Julian
  • Julian: It's a girl
  • Garak: This is our daughter
  • Julian: SHE HAS PARENTS
  • Garak: We're naming her Mila

jazzypizzaz:

babeltwo:

geneticallyenhancedsecretagent:

babeltwo:

This friendship is cute, and I wish there were more of it. 

Same! I bet Martok protected Julian in the prison camp

I just imagine him seeing Bashir come in and thinking that this fragile human will be dead in a week. And then he sees how stubborn and determined and fearless he is, and he realizes he was wrong. And Bashir starts using what few resources they have to help Martok after his fights with the Jem'Hadar, and now he suddenly owes that fragile human his life.

also this scene is great because bashir talks like a klingon

 

all loud and aggressive since speaking quietly is rude

fricking cardassians thinking in stories

  • bashir: i'm going to the store, do we need anything?
  • garak: listen, doctor, and listen closely, for there are things you need to know. long ago, when i was younger and... more adventurous, a friend of mine, ratot, was appointed to a high position in the central command. he'd attracted the attention of some high powers indeed. to celebrate this, we made a dish involving eggs, milk, and three cups of sugar, as well as a small vial of mara'net spice - and oh, we celebrated, beLIEVE me, but we had no idea of what we were getting into, for then--
  • bashir: eggs milk spice sugar got it thanks

jazzypizzaz:

Move Along Home isn’t an episode I should read into very much

…but until he’s kicked out, Julian is the instigator to “solving” all the puzzles.  His screaming gets all the players to find each other, he figures out they have to mimic the allamaraine hopscotch, and he drinks the champagne first at the gas party…

but he gets the balance of smart to dumbass off by like 1000%.  sorry honey you are a genius but also genetics don’t fix you being a giant dork.